pd_recapturing
10-29 10:02 AM
Guys, Please send the letter. As Chandu said that anyone can be a victim of AC21 issue so pls pls send the letters asap and support this campaign.
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royus77
06-29 07:45 PM
Allowing to file on July 02 or July 03 depends on visa numbers available which in turn depends usage the preceding month. If all the numbers are used up (meaning Immigration Officers have requested visas from DOS in the process of approving pending I-485) they cannot allow anyone to file on July 02 or July 03 and so on.
I guess currently race is on from USCIS to consume Visa numbers (40,000 or so) from DOS at unprecedented pace. That's why bulletin hasn't changed as yet. USCIS on its part is possibly trying to avoid flood of application at all cost, even if it requires working extra hours (and approving as many cases as possible) if it can save them later. DOS will NOT move the date back until the numbers are used up or near used up. I guess race is on....we will know on Monday. One way to know how true this is will be watching I-485 approvals from now till Monday. We are caught in the tug of war between USCIS and DOS. CIRCus isn't over yesterday....it is back in town again !!!
Can they reject applications that received on 2 july ....logically if the application was received when the Visa date is current it should be accepted. Have to see the timing of the DOS bulletin as they may make it unavailble effective "Now" rather than effective from :" yesterday " if we didnt see any revision to VB today, people whose application received on Monday may be safe ..lets hope
I guess currently race is on from USCIS to consume Visa numbers (40,000 or so) from DOS at unprecedented pace. That's why bulletin hasn't changed as yet. USCIS on its part is possibly trying to avoid flood of application at all cost, even if it requires working extra hours (and approving as many cases as possible) if it can save them later. DOS will NOT move the date back until the numbers are used up or near used up. I guess race is on....we will know on Monday. One way to know how true this is will be watching I-485 approvals from now till Monday. We are caught in the tug of war between USCIS and DOS. CIRCus isn't over yesterday....it is back in town again !!!
Can they reject applications that received on 2 july ....logically if the application was received when the Visa date is current it should be accepted. Have to see the timing of the DOS bulletin as they may make it unavailble effective "Now" rather than effective from :" yesterday " if we didnt see any revision to VB today, people whose application received on Monday may be safe ..lets hope
royus77
06-29 07:30 PM
For the nth time.. numbers are reduced only after approval and not based on receipt of application. So if you can submit it on July 2nd you submit it on 3rd and so on.
485 Approvals are coming in thousands every day ( as per the increasing activity on pending 485s)...and DOS can any day suspend if they think numbers are over ..so if you are lucky on 2nd you are in and so on ..remember GCs are not only approved in US only it been happening at all the visa posts all the world
485 Approvals are coming in thousands every day ( as per the increasing activity on pending 485s)...and DOS can any day suspend if they think numbers are over ..so if you are lucky on 2nd you are in and so on ..remember GCs are not only approved in US only it been happening at all the visa posts all the world
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cram
06-21 01:37 AM
Endlessloop wrote:
If an employer files for your green card and you do not work for the employer, it is considered a visa fraud. Also, you have to wait for 180 days after applying for I-485 to be eligible to work for an employer other than the one who filed your labor.
Since you are in the country illegally, it would probably be faster for you to get permanent residency if the new immigration bill passes.
Everybody here is on common grounds. We are all in this forum to help each other with only one objective: to obtain our green cards. There is no need to make assumptions to make each other feel bad. With all we have to go through with the retrogressions and whatever comes with it, this is the last thing we need. AND...No, sorry to disappoint you but I am not in the country illegally and I don't intend to commit fraud... is that clear?????????
When I filed my I-485, the letter/job offer of my employer stated that the job will be open for me as soon as I get my green card. So when I get my EAD in 3 months, what am I going to do with it if I will not be working for my employer yet.
This is because the "green card" (GC) is based upon a future job offer. The person is not required to have worked for the GC-sponsoring employer prior to filing or obtaining the GC.
so ... will this answer my question?
If an employer files for your green card and you do not work for the employer, it is considered a visa fraud. Also, you have to wait for 180 days after applying for I-485 to be eligible to work for an employer other than the one who filed your labor.
Since you are in the country illegally, it would probably be faster for you to get permanent residency if the new immigration bill passes.
Everybody here is on common grounds. We are all in this forum to help each other with only one objective: to obtain our green cards. There is no need to make assumptions to make each other feel bad. With all we have to go through with the retrogressions and whatever comes with it, this is the last thing we need. AND...No, sorry to disappoint you but I am not in the country illegally and I don't intend to commit fraud... is that clear?????????
When I filed my I-485, the letter/job offer of my employer stated that the job will be open for me as soon as I get my green card. So when I get my EAD in 3 months, what am I going to do with it if I will not be working for my employer yet.
This is because the "green card" (GC) is based upon a future job offer. The person is not required to have worked for the GC-sponsoring employer prior to filing or obtaining the GC.
so ... will this answer my question?
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PlainSpeak
03-29 11:58 AM
Man you made my day... atleast i can be happy for coming three weeks, then i will go back to normal after Visa Bulletin Copy/paste.
Ha Ha Ha .....
MC you are an eternal pessimist !!!
Ha Ha Ha .....
MC you are an eternal pessimist !!!
purplehazea
05-04 06:57 PM
You can consult another attorney if your attorney is giving you this advice. As far as I know, since you have a valid H1B, you should be fine. I would recommend that you file for all your benefits together (485/EAD/AP)
- I am not an attorney so use my advice at your own risk.
- I am not an attorney so use my advice at your own risk.
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spdy_mn
06-29 05:10 PM
Heard the same from my lawyer, she has changed her tune completely in 2 days. Now she says that she is hearing the same thing and is possible. They are working through the weekend and has asked me to keep my blackberry on me at all times as they will be providing emails updates every 4 hours or if and when the said bulletin is released.
What law firm is that looks like a good one. If possible please PM me the details
What law firm is that looks like a good one. If possible please PM me the details
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test101
06-29 04:14 PM
This does not make sence at all. Why the USCIS would make visa number current then retrogress again? I do not think they make all visa current and not expect a flood of applications. .
I do not thisn that the USCIS did not plan for this. This does not make sense?Did this ever happen before?
I do not thisn that the USCIS did not plan for this. This does not make sense?Did this ever happen before?
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pmb76
07-14 06:08 PM
I was Just watching CNN and was reporting a part of Lou Dobbs episode,
Tom Tancredo saying people overstay on H-1B after its "5 year" Expiration.
I think he do not even have a clue about H-1 B programme.
Sometimes I wonder how these bozos get elected to office. These congressmen who misread the law, how can they get away with making such false statements over mainstream national media ? What is particularly appalling is , why haven't we heard any outbursts from media or other government quarters challenging his statements. What a mess...
Tom Tancredo saying people overstay on H-1B after its "5 year" Expiration.
I think he do not even have a clue about H-1 B programme.
Sometimes I wonder how these bozos get elected to office. These congressmen who misread the law, how can they get away with making such false statements over mainstream national media ? What is particularly appalling is , why haven't we heard any outbursts from media or other government quarters challenging his statements. What a mess...
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ski_dude12
09-27 04:47 PM
Also, does anyone remember where the I-485 was mailed? NSC or TSC? From what I remember it was based on what state you lived in when I-485 was filed.
It was NSC for New York residents... Can someone confirm that please.
It was NSC for New York residents... Can someone confirm that please.
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Saralayar
01-08 01:08 AM
I am surprised to see this thread active this long. Earlier I have with help of Saralayar and other members have bring this point to attention. But at that time no one was supporting Idea.
I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.
Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD
(1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.
(@) Time should be considered only after getting GC
(3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS
So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.
The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.
Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also
Thanks
Core IV can consolidate the valueable points like this for the argument.
I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.
Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD
(1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.
(@) Time should be considered only after getting GC
(3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS
So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.
The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.
Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also
Thanks
Core IV can consolidate the valueable points like this for the argument.
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priderock
06-18 10:21 AM
I-94s are submitted at the airport when you leave the country. In many cases there are no I-94s coz they have been submitted and no one thought of making copies of them before travelling out of country. I am sure I dont have all the I-94s that I ever used. I submitted them at the airport when I went out and didnt make copies.
I think it must be ok if you dont have all of them. Can anyone advise if that's the case?
My lawyer only asked for copy of latest I94.
She may have copies of some of my I94s in my file from previous H1 filings , but I am sure she does not have all my I94 copies. I guess only the latest I94 is required.
I think it must be ok if you dont have all of them. Can anyone advise if that's the case?
My lawyer only asked for copy of latest I94.
She may have copies of some of my I94s in my file from previous H1 filings , but I am sure she does not have all my I94 copies. I guess only the latest I94 is required.
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vg1778
09-26 02:16 PM
Type in congressman your city name in google or yahoo search. It will give you various names for your senator and congressmen. Call them and give them your name FN LN, DOB, Alien number and fedex / delivery tracking mnumber. They will call you back with relevant information.
Goodluck
this is a draft I used to email my inquiries. Hope this helps.
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Regarding: Inquiry/status for I-485 AOS application sent to USCIS, Nebraska Service Center on July 2nd 2007 [FedEx Tracking No. xxxx - Recd. by Mr. J. Barrett NSC At 10.25am on July 2nd]
Dear Mr. Assistant Chief,
My Adjustment of status application [I-485,I-765 and I-131] based on EB3 RIR category, was delivered to Department of Homeland Security, USCIS, Nebraska Service Center, Lincoln, NE on July 2nd 2007. It was received in the mailroom at 10.25am (reference : FedEx tracking number xxxxx).
USCIS website says NSC are working with August 2007 received AOS applications. However, I haven't heard any sort of communication pertaining to my pending application with USCIS. USCIS Customer Service would not pull up my application information in the system yet. Seems like USCIS is either not following the First in First out (FIFO) process for sure or the figures are misleading.
Details as provided below:
Name of Applicant: Name xxx
�A� Number of Applicant: A 088 xxx xxx
Date of Birth: xxx
FedEx Tracking No: (whatever is your tracking number)
I would greatly appreciate if your office can help me to track and process my AOS application delivered to NSC on July 2nd 2007. Please feel free to contact me at (xxx) xxxx for any additional information.
Thanks and Best Regards,
nkavjs is this the format you sent to your congressman or USCIS complaint mailbox?
Goodluck
this is a draft I used to email my inquiries. Hope this helps.
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Regarding: Inquiry/status for I-485 AOS application sent to USCIS, Nebraska Service Center on July 2nd 2007 [FedEx Tracking No. xxxx - Recd. by Mr. J. Barrett NSC At 10.25am on July 2nd]
Dear Mr. Assistant Chief,
My Adjustment of status application [I-485,I-765 and I-131] based on EB3 RIR category, was delivered to Department of Homeland Security, USCIS, Nebraska Service Center, Lincoln, NE on July 2nd 2007. It was received in the mailroom at 10.25am (reference : FedEx tracking number xxxxx).
USCIS website says NSC are working with August 2007 received AOS applications. However, I haven't heard any sort of communication pertaining to my pending application with USCIS. USCIS Customer Service would not pull up my application information in the system yet. Seems like USCIS is either not following the First in First out (FIFO) process for sure or the figures are misleading.
Details as provided below:
Name of Applicant: Name xxx
�A� Number of Applicant: A 088 xxx xxx
Date of Birth: xxx
FedEx Tracking No: (whatever is your tracking number)
I would greatly appreciate if your office can help me to track and process my AOS application delivered to NSC on July 2nd 2007. Please feel free to contact me at (xxx) xxxx for any additional information.
Thanks and Best Regards,
nkavjs is this the format you sent to your congressman or USCIS complaint mailbox?
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kaisersose
03-24 09:45 AM
As already answered in the previous post, it is all clearly laid out in the I-9.
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apnair2002
01-19 06:14 PM
James Rogers was on the Bill O'Rielly show. They oppose HR 4437
http://www.jesuit.org/sections/sub.asp?SECTION_ID=193&SUBSECTION_ID=633&PARENT_ID=
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/politics/19immig.html
http://www.jesuit.org/sections/sub.asp?SECTION_ID=193&SUBSECTION_ID=633&PARENT_ID=
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/politics/19immig.html
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sanjayb
09-27 03:39 PM
CADude and others... maybe your efforts are paying off. What I learned in this process is that have faith in your application filing. If everything is fine you'll definitely get the receipts. It may be either next week or in 2 weeks.
Couple of things...
1) Calling USCIS is useless...
2) Look for checks for cashed....
3) Keep in touch with our pending group. I gives you support and motivation.
santosh19-2nd july/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140-TSC/No CC/No RN
sanjayb - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 08/05 -- CHECKS CASHED -- 09/25 --- CASE IN TSC
Ashres11 - 2nd July/ 10:28/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ NO CC/ NO RN
Sairam - 2nd July/10:28/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No RN - 07/28
InsKrish - 2nd July/10.25/J.Barret/NSC/I-140 approved from TSC/No CC/RN
sudhi - 2nd July/ 10:25/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ NO CC/ NO RN - CHECKS CASHED 09/13 -- Received receipts too.
Danu2007 - 2nd July/10:25AM/J. Barret/NSC/140-TSC/NO RN
Triviagal - 2nd July/ 10:25AM/ J. Barret/NSC/140-TSC/NO RN
rkartik78- 2nd july/10:25am/ J.Barret/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
GCFISH- 2nd july/10:25am/ J.Barret/ I140-TSC/ 485 went to NE/NO RN NOCC
rexjamla- 2ndJuly/10:25am/J.Barret/ I-140-NSC/ NO RN NO CC
kmkanth- 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
BU007- 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
veerufs - 2nd july/10:28am/J. BARRET/I140-TSC/NO RN/NO CC
123456mg - 2nd july/10:25am at NSC/J BARRET/I140-Approved from TSC/NO RN/NO CC
aussie731- 2ndJuly/10:25am/J.Barret/ I-140-NSC/ NO RN NO CC
nkavjs - 2nd July/ 10:25am/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ I-140 TSC lud on I-140 8-5-07/ NO CC/ NO RN
jsb - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 07/27
gc_us - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 07/28
srinitls - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/NO RN NO CC
realraghu - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
vg1778 - nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
Couple of things...
1) Calling USCIS is useless...
2) Look for checks for cashed....
3) Keep in touch with our pending group. I gives you support and motivation.
santosh19-2nd july/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140-TSC/No CC/No RN
sanjayb - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN 140 LUD - 08/05 -- CHECKS CASHED -- 09/25 --- CASE IN TSC
Ashres11 - 2nd July/ 10:28/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ NO CC/ NO RN
Sairam - 2nd July/10:28/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No RN - 07/28
InsKrish - 2nd July/10.25/J.Barret/NSC/I-140 approved from TSC/No CC/RN
sudhi - 2nd July/ 10:25/ Fedex/ J.Barrret/ NSC/ NO CC/ NO RN - CHECKS CASHED 09/13 -- Received receipts too.
Danu2007 - 2nd July/10:25AM/J. Barret/NSC/140-TSC/NO RN
Triviagal - 2nd July/ 10:25AM/ J. Barret/NSC/140-TSC/NO RN
rkartik78- 2nd july/10:25am/ J.Barret/ I140-TSC/ NO RN NO CC
GCFISH- 2nd july/10:25am/ J.Barret/ I140-TSC/ 485 went to NE/NO RN NOCC
rexjamla- 2ndJuly/10:25am/J.Barret/ I-140-NSC/ NO RN NO CC
kmkanth- 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
BU007- 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/140 - TSC/No CC/No RN
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srinitls - 2nd July/10:25/FedEx/J.Barret/NSC/NO RN NO CC
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shiankuraaf
10-01 02:23 PM
service center is Nebraska.
Infact my 485 got denied in August 2009 and in september 2009 filed MTR,which got approved on 22 sep 2009 and today we got 485 approval emails.
Please......put some details and how did you deal with the MTR, so that it will be very useful for everybody around here.
Infact my 485 got denied in August 2009 and in september 2009 filed MTR,which got approved on 22 sep 2009 and today we got 485 approval emails.
Please......put some details and how did you deal with the MTR, so that it will be very useful for everybody around here.
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gc_on_demand
09-09 02:37 PM
Good response from almost all . I didnot call Steve King and Lamar Smith. as well as those who are co -sponsers.
Also skipped Luis Gutirezze .. He was supportive in sub committe hearing last time .
Aide from Rep Chris Cannon took my name and no and she told me some one will get back to me as she is not sure about bill.
Guys keep calling.. People just take message and average call takes 1 min or less.
Also skipped Luis Gutirezze .. He was supportive in sub committe hearing last time .
Aide from Rep Chris Cannon took my name and no and she told me some one will get back to me as she is not sure about bill.
Guys keep calling.. People just take message and average call takes 1 min or less.
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sri1309
01-05 11:41 AM
Hello every one,
I am starting this thread for all of us not to just think about the GC process. If any one is residing here for 10 years without GC, think about making a law which can lead us to Citizenship. My thoughts on this:
Many of our colleagues who landed with us during the late 90s (1998, 1999) and early 2000, who got their GC without any issues are now Citizens or waiting to become Citizen soon.
What is our status?. Just think. Still we are strugling to get the GC. Even by law change, if we are getting the GC this year (by GOD's Grace), then we need to wait for another 5 years from now (approximately 2014). Many persons like me who have come to this Country in their later career will be very much affected due to this delay (we have lot of other issues like the dependents reaching the age of 21 etc., College, University fees etc.,).
Core team and every one, please consider this and try to lobby for getting the citizenship without further wait if the persons satisfy the folowing conditions:
1. If they are legally here for 10 years (With approved I-140 and waiting for Adjustment of Status without current date).
2. If they have earned full 40 points in Social Security
3. If they have paid the tax continuously for 10 years
4. If they own a house and paying Mortgage (adding weightage to the Economy boost)
and
5. If they do not have any criminal records in these 10 years.
Please again do not just concentrate on the GC issues. Consider this and if any one can come with a letter draft with legal openion, we can send it to all Congress members, State Governers etc.,
Hope the members and the Core team consider this issue. I have one more thread on this, which I started some months back but the response was not that good. If every one of us unite on this and raise this to the Congress, I think the new Government may consider as this is very genuine.
Hi,
I would take off the point 4 related to owning the house as most of us are unable to do it just as greencard isnt in hand. I know how one can feel the pain of even owning the house without a GC, but trust me, there are very very few who would have bought a house with GC pending.,.
I STRONGLY support Citizenship for anyone for 10 years in the US or waiting for 5 years after applying for GC. I have also voiced the same thing even before. Citizenship is what we need to request after this much wait,
I am starting this thread for all of us not to just think about the GC process. If any one is residing here for 10 years without GC, think about making a law which can lead us to Citizenship. My thoughts on this:
Many of our colleagues who landed with us during the late 90s (1998, 1999) and early 2000, who got their GC without any issues are now Citizens or waiting to become Citizen soon.
What is our status?. Just think. Still we are strugling to get the GC. Even by law change, if we are getting the GC this year (by GOD's Grace), then we need to wait for another 5 years from now (approximately 2014). Many persons like me who have come to this Country in their later career will be very much affected due to this delay (we have lot of other issues like the dependents reaching the age of 21 etc., College, University fees etc.,).
Core team and every one, please consider this and try to lobby for getting the citizenship without further wait if the persons satisfy the folowing conditions:
1. If they are legally here for 10 years (With approved I-140 and waiting for Adjustment of Status without current date).
2. If they have earned full 40 points in Social Security
3. If they have paid the tax continuously for 10 years
4. If they own a house and paying Mortgage (adding weightage to the Economy boost)
and
5. If they do not have any criminal records in these 10 years.
Please again do not just concentrate on the GC issues. Consider this and if any one can come with a letter draft with legal openion, we can send it to all Congress members, State Governers etc.,
Hope the members and the Core team consider this issue. I have one more thread on this, which I started some months back but the response was not that good. If every one of us unite on this and raise this to the Congress, I think the new Government may consider as this is very genuine.
Hi,
I would take off the point 4 related to owning the house as most of us are unable to do it just as greencard isnt in hand. I know how one can feel the pain of even owning the house without a GC, but trust me, there are very very few who would have bought a house with GC pending.,.
I STRONGLY support Citizenship for anyone for 10 years in the US or waiting for 5 years after applying for GC. I have also voiced the same thing even before. Citizenship is what we need to request after this much wait,
indianabacklog
06-18 08:10 PM
Why do we need 325A?- i thought this was for people in illegal status. Our son entered the US on valid H4 visa. Also do we need to request in application to attach the file to mother or anything like that. I will give the USCIS a call and share that information here if I find anything more.
thanks
krishna
I was unable to file for my son since he aged out over a year ago because of long delay in labor cert. However, I filed for my spouse and we both submitted G325A in accordance with instructions from my international services division at work.
thanks
krishna
I was unable to file for my son since he aged out over a year ago because of long delay in labor cert. However, I filed for my spouse and we both submitted G325A in accordance with instructions from my international services division at work.
knacath
11-03 10:25 PM
Sent 8 letters (spouse+self)
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